Tuesday, October 09, 2007

You know how you're arguing with someone and they'll start contradicting themselves or denying having said such and such? Often I'm able to give verbatim or near-verbatim quotes from them, since this is often only thirty seconds after they said it, but sometimes I can't and never will they admit to having said it.

For a while I was thinking I should carry around an audio recorder for such situations.

I don't know what the heck I was thinking with that idea. If you've ever argued with the run-of-the-mill Internet user, you know having an irrefutable log of the entire conversation sitting right there on the screen is meaningless. They'll deny ever having made c/p'd quotes, or claim it means something else entirely. I few minutes ago someone said to me I meant that if it required 6 million Jews to be killed and many more to be starved and be sent to concentration camps for the creation of Israel, then how the hell does it only take 3.5 hours of abuse for one girl to get 6.1 million USD., deny linking the p and q, and then ask me Er, how is it a if p then q? when I reposted the quote.

Gee, I don't know. Maybe because it says 'IF p THEN q'?

Contrary to what one might think, these people aren't trolls, and they don't suffer from lack of memory. They're just beyond all reason.


Unknown said...

Actually, that is an 'IF p THEN HOW q', which is most obviously interpreted as 'HOW (IF p THEN q)'.

Unknown said...

...and how many logic courses teach 'HOW'?

BTW, signing in shouldn't automatically post one's comment. Plus it should tell me that I'm logged in. Silly Blogger software.

LKBM said...

He's asking how because his position is that if if took X suffering for the Jews to get Israel then it should take more than Y suffering for the girl to get 6 100 000USD.' It's a negation more than anything.

It's more clear in full context. Specifically, his position is that because the girl who didn't fight back sufficiently hard against the people assaulting her, she deserves no compensation beyond the 'life lesson'. How could the q='she should get compensation' be true given the p='Jews suffered a lot before getting Israel'?

Unknown said...

So, just compensation is supposed to be a linear (or constant) function of suffering (however that is quantified).

LKBM said...

I don't think giving her nothing makes it either.